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PostSubject: Pvp abuse- fireballed with pvp immunity [Victim- Mason593]   Pvp abuse- fireballed with pvp immunity [Victim- Mason593] EmptySun Nov 20, 2011 1:58 am

Hello all. I happened to catch a screen shot of two separate people who pvp abused me with fireball while I was pvp immune. Here they are:
[The culprits are mrgaminwatch14 and dillon911]

Mrgaminwatch14:
Pvp abuse- fireballed with pvp immunity [Victim- Mason593] 2hq8dcl

Dillon911:
Pvp abuse- fireballed with pvp immunity [Victim- Mason593] 15813so
Pvp abuse- fireballed with pvp immunity [Victim- Mason593] 34q42ko
^^Sorry about that one. I didn't think it would be that small.
Anyways, Cav, hope you see this.
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PostSubject: Re: Pvp abuse- fireballed with pvp immunity [Victim- Mason593]   Pvp abuse- fireballed with pvp immunity [Victim- Mason593] EmptySun Nov 20, 2011 4:08 am

Aye, I've seen it.
I read everything here, remember?

Someone do me a favour and tell Tutorial that if he does anything against the rules one more time, I'm banning him.
Should have been jailed for this.
Gamin is on his last straw, as well. I've heard too many complaints about him.
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PostSubject: Re: Pvp abuse- fireballed with pvp immunity [Victim- Mason593]   Pvp abuse- fireballed with pvp immunity [Victim- Mason593] EmptySun Nov 20, 2011 9:31 am

Tutorial has been pushing it, but he did nothing that I see in these pics. Chat logs reads dillon used fireball on mason, who was immune in the second two. Mason should not have been following Tut around on a raid while pvp immune in the first place though(third pic). I'll pass along the message when I see them though.

On a side note, people, you REALLY need to find out if someone is pvp immune BEFORE you set them on fire >.> Punch them in the face, throw a snowball, an egg, shoot an arrow, ANYTHING. By the looks of these, Gamin and Dillon were both in "shoot first, ask later" mode with good reason. Looks like Tut and Mason were raiding.
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PostSubject: Re: Pvp abuse- fireballed with pvp immunity [Victim- Mason593]   Pvp abuse- fireballed with pvp immunity [Victim- Mason593] EmptySun Nov 20, 2011 11:49 am

Yea we need to put the "If you are pvp immune, GTFO of the battlefield!" rule somewhere were everyone can see it. I agree with Sahath on the point that if mason was pvp immune, what was he doing over there? Also mrgamin is a monk... no swords means that he probably won't try to hit people in the first place and has no way of telling if a person charging at him is pvp immune.
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PostSubject: Re: Pvp abuse- fireballed with pvp immunity [Victim- Mason593]   Pvp abuse- fireballed with pvp immunity [Victim- Mason593] EmptySun Nov 20, 2011 1:26 pm

Dude, Sahath, they were raiding DEMONHEIM! I was trying to defend and asked some help from Tut! Tut did nothing wrong here. Clearly, if you look back up at the top you can see a culprit list. Only dillon and mrgaminwatch pvp abused.
[edit: I was trying to distract dillon so Tut could kill him. Thats when he fireballed me.]
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PostSubject: Re: Pvp abuse- fireballed with pvp immunity [Victim- Mason593]   Pvp abuse- fireballed with pvp immunity [Victim- Mason593] EmptySun Nov 20, 2011 1:44 pm

Mason593 wrote:
[edit: I was trying to distract dillon so Tut could kill him. Thats when he fireballed me.]
What you did there is considered pvp immunity abuse...
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PostSubject: Re: Pvp abuse- fireballed with pvp immunity [Victim- Mason593]   Pvp abuse- fireballed with pvp immunity [Victim- Mason593] EmptySun Nov 20, 2011 2:08 pm

The funny thing about raiding and being raided is that if they kill you, you always have the option not to re-engage. If they are in your town, lock up or do some work underground until immunity wears off. Who was raiding who is less important than you putting yourself in the crossfire while immune.
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PostSubject: Re: Pvp abuse- fireballed with pvp immunity [Victim- Mason593]   Pvp abuse- fireballed with pvp immunity [Victim- Mason593] EmptySat Nov 26, 2011 8:09 am

At one of those points where you yelled "PvP abuse" we were fighting tutorial and you jumped out in front of him and took two fire balls..
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PostSubject: Re: Pvp abuse- fireballed with pvp immunity [Victim- Mason593]   Pvp abuse- fireballed with pvp immunity [Victim- Mason593] EmptySat Nov 26, 2011 3:19 pm

May I ask why the Trotz people were attacking us?
And Tbh Dillon does abuse as much as he can.
A while back he tryed to raid me and Sam's base, we killed him so he came back removed the blocks protecting the chests and looted them while PvP immune
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PostSubject: Re: Pvp abuse- fireballed with pvp immunity [Victim- Mason593]   Pvp abuse- fireballed with pvp immunity [Victim- Mason593] EmptySat Nov 26, 2011 7:12 pm

PVP immunity is a problem. We keep dancing around the issue, when the real problem here is pvp immunity in the first place.

Create a situation where someone can invade your turf, kill you and then you aren't allowed to do anything but sit there and watch for 5 minutes? That is insane and absurd.

If you really want it to stay that way, then put us in "death jail" for 5 minutes so at least people don't have to watch while someone is running around messing in your stuff.

People also might think twice about going into combat for no reason if they were going to spend 5 minutes locked in a tomb.

Incidentally, I have seen players get killed, and then they revive and their killers TRY to egg them into abusing immunity so that they can screenshot them and report them.

Clearly, immunity is a waste of time and just creates a situation where players are getting reported.

Lets try:

• Cut immunity to 30-45 seconds

or

• Eliminate pvp immunity

and

• Allow towns to ban someone from their graveyard

and/or

• Town members revive in their own graveyard rather than the nearest graveyard, those non-aligned to any entity revive at bale.



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PostSubject: Re: Pvp abuse- fireballed with pvp immunity [Victim- Mason593]   Pvp abuse- fireballed with pvp immunity [Victim- Mason593] EmptySat Nov 26, 2011 8:29 pm

N00bz, we attacked becuase we were looking for Sunhold trying to find austin to kill him and when we were running around your city Mason jittery on us so we attacked him first before he could have time to attack us. The main plan was to attack and kill him so he'd have pvp immunity so we could just go on to Sunhold but he called in tutorial and crap and it ended up being a battle. And Dillon doesn't abuse as much as he can. He's only done it a few times and I told him to stop the only reason people is saying he does is becuase they don't like him becuase when he FIRST joined the server he raided everyone becuase he didn't know better. He doesn't anymore there's no reason to dislike him.
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PostSubject: Re: Pvp abuse- fireballed with pvp immunity [Victim- Mason593]   Pvp abuse- fireballed with pvp immunity [Victim- Mason593] EmptySat Nov 26, 2011 8:33 pm

Oh and also N00bz. You can't destroy in someone elses town. If it was in the wild that's your fault and if you have outsiders can destroy on in your town that's also your fault...
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PostSubject: Re: Pvp abuse- fireballed with pvp immunity [Victim- Mason593]   Pvp abuse- fireballed with pvp immunity [Victim- Mason593] EmptySat Nov 26, 2011 8:41 pm

dionnsai wrote:
PVP immunity is a problem. We keep dancing around the issue, when the real problem here is pvp immunity in the first place.

Create a situation where someone can invade your turf, kill you and then you aren't allowed to do anything but sit there and watch for 5 minutes? That is insane and absurd.

If you really want it to stay that way, then put us in "death jail" for 5 minutes so at least people don't have to watch while someone is running around messing in your stuff.

People also might think twice about going into combat for no reason if they were going to spend 5 minutes locked in a tomb.

Incidentally, I have seen players get killed, and then they revive and their killers TRY to egg them into abusing immunity so that they can screenshot them and report them.

Clearly, immunity is a waste of time and just creates a situation where players are getting reported.

Lets try:

• Cut immunity to 30-45 seconds

or

• Eliminate pvp immunity

and

• Allow towns to ban someone from their graveyard

and/or

• Town members revive in their own graveyard rather than the nearest graveyard, those non-aligned to any entity revive at bale.



Apparently you aren't that up to date with the server. Cav announced weeks ago that he was taking out PvP immunity, It's just a matter of time now.
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PostSubject: Re: Pvp abuse- fireballed with pvp immunity [Victim- Mason593]   Pvp abuse- fireballed with pvp immunity [Victim- Mason593] EmptySat Nov 26, 2011 9:38 pm

I originally tried shortening it to a minute...but it didn't work.
THEN I tried to shorten it to 30 seconds...and it didn't work.

Now, as of 5 days ago, I completely shut it off...and you guys are telling me it STILL doesn't work?
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PostSubject: Re: Pvp abuse- fireballed with pvp immunity [Victim- Mason593]   Pvp abuse- fireballed with pvp immunity [Victim- Mason593] EmptySat Nov 26, 2011 10:15 pm

PvP immunity is still working on the server, I can personally confirm as of mid day Thursday.
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PostSubject: Re: Pvp abuse- fireballed with pvp immunity [Victim- Mason593]   Pvp abuse- fireballed with pvp immunity [Victim- Mason593] EmptySat Nov 26, 2011 11:25 pm

Sahath wrote:
PvP immunity is still working on the server, I can personally confirm as of mid day Thursday.

God damn it...
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PostSubject: Re: Pvp abuse- fireballed with pvp immunity [Victim- Mason593]   Pvp abuse- fireballed with pvp immunity [Victim- Mason593] EmptySun Nov 27, 2011 2:28 pm

There is a cobble/torch trail to sunhold. No need to attack us or tell them you were going to Sunhold. But the rest was fair points, Zessus.
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PostSubject: Re: Pvp abuse- fireballed with pvp immunity [Victim- Mason593]   Pvp abuse- fireballed with pvp immunity [Victim- Mason593] EmptyMon Nov 28, 2011 10:33 am

Pvp immunity is still on, even now as of Monday.
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