EpicBitching

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No, this is just garbage. You guys gank in our base all day for no reason, and there's no way we can beat 4 tier 4 classes at once. They're so vastly superior to all tiers below them. I had Bike in a corner, jumping up and down hitting him in the back (5-8 hits). He just looks at me with his diamond sword and 3 hits, I'm down. That guy whose the Mystic takes about 50 hits, jumping, in the back, with an iron sword.

And they're always in our base. They could be promoting the server, building a town and establishing a community so that everyone can enjoy the server. What do they do instead? Stand around, waiting to roll on some people who are weaker than them. Thats probably why new people stopped staying; they're getting farmed leaving Bale.

ZechsMerq wrote:

No, this is just garbage. You guys gank in our base all day for no reason, and there's no way we can beat 4 tier 4 classes at once. They're so vastly superior to all tiers below them. I had Bike in a corner, jumping up and down hitting him in the back (5-8 hits). He just looks at me with his diamond sword and 3 hits, I'm down. That guy whose the Mystic takes about 50 hits, jumping, in the back, with an iron sword.

And they're always in our base. They could be promoting the server, building a town and establishing a community so that everyone can enjoy the server. What do they do instead? Stand around, waiting to roll on some people who are weaker than them. Thats probably why new people stopped staying; they're getting farmed leaving Bale.

We have only attacked new people outside bale once. People seem to forget that VALI brought this on themselves when they attacked nomads' friends. The original reason for nomad was to raid everyone a little bit, for fun and loot. If it had stayed this way it could have been fun for everyone and it wouldn't have weighed down on any one town. However, VALI retaliated by attacking people they considered nomads friends. Forcing Demonheim to join them and cut all ties with Nomad. They then went and attacked Is-Vena.
I'm a firm believer in only taking your fight to the ones involved. Nomad has been in a guerilla war against VALI and VALI alone. We have not attacked Sygneel, or Bastion and on several occasions I have pulled my people back from killing lower tiered members of VALI, so I don't want to hear any bitching from the people of VALI about how "Unfair" this is. If it's so unfair, why has VALI done it to other people?

I know that you Zechs are a cool guy and a very good pvper who knows how to play his class well, so this is not really aimed at you, but people are forgetting that VALI is in no way squeaky clean in this regard as the leadership is making it out to be.

Enfourvie wrote:

People seem to forget that VALI brought this on themselves

You mean that you brought this upon your selves? You guys started this whole "war" when you were raiding Sygneel. I promise protection to my nation members so I went over there and scared zaven off.

Enfourvie wrote:

Forcing Demonheim to join them and cut all ties with Nomad

Forcing Demonheim to join us??? Ha? They wanted to join us... and then after I kicked them from the nation, and after they sided with you... I just went over there and showed them my opinion of a former nation member joining my enemy.

Enfourvie wrote:

They then went and attacked Is-Vena.

Is-Vena was attacked because it's the home town of Tutorialbike.

Enfourvie wrote:

I have pulled my people back from killing lower tiered members of VALI

When have you pulled your people back from killing lower tiered members of VALI? I know that yesterday evening that curlyalix was a big target in the battle, and she is only a hero....

Enfourvie wrote:

I don't want to hear any bitching from the people of VALI about how "Unfair" this is. If it's so unfair, why has VALI done it to other people?

Woah woah woah... what??? What other low tiered people have we killed? We don't kill anyone at all unless they mess with us. Or a friend for that matter.

Now stop trying to push the blame on VALI... you know that you started this "war" and so does just about everyone else.

Cyrus19 wrote:

Enfourvie wrote:

People seem to forget that VALI brought this on themselves

You mean that you brought this upon your selves? You guys started this whole "war" when you were raiding Sygneel. I promise protection to my nation members so I went over there and scared zaven off.

You brought this war on yourselves. Before then is was simple raiding, as it was directed at everyone in general, but then you attacked our friends. I see no problem in attacking someone who attacks your nation members, however, attacking Demonheim and Is-Vena because you can't affect us is petty and low.

Cyrus19 wrote:

Enfourvie wrote:

Forcing Demonheim to join them and cut all ties with Nomad

Forcing Demonheim to join us??? Ha? They wanted to join us... and then after I kicked them from the nation, and after they sided with you... I just went over there and showed them my opinion of a former nation member joining my enemy.

I'll quote a conversation I had with winky.
Me -"So why'd you join TTL man?"
Winky -"To get them off my back, they were being dicks and attacking my town heaps"

Cyrus19 wrote:

Enfourvie wrote:

They then went and attacked Is-Vena.

Is-Vena was attacked because it's the home town of Tutorialbike.

You may not have noticed but tutorial is with Nomad in all but name and is acting on his own, not the orders of the leader. Is-Vena is a peaceful town out in the middle of nowhere.

Cyrus19 wrote:

Enfourvie wrote:

I have pulled my people back from killing lower tiered members of VALI

When have you pulled your people back from killing lower tiered members of VALI? I know that yesterday evening that curlyalix was a big target in the battle, and she is only a hero....

I'm not going to tell my people to leave curly and the rest alone completely but when it is getting out of hand I will step in. You can ask anyone on at the time that I told my people to leave her alone after she had been killed a few times. Tutorial didn't listen and killed her again. I forced him to give all her stuff back and paid her the amount of money she lost when she was killed. I also did the same for iiio when he was being killed repeatedly.

Cyrus19 wrote:

Enfourvie wrote:

I don't want to hear any bitching from the people of VALI about how "Unfair" this is. If it's so unfair, why has VALI done it to other people?

Woah woah woah... what??? What other low tiered people have we killed? We don't kill anyone at all unless they mess with us. Or a friend for that matter.

Now stop trying to push the blame on VALI... you know that you started this "war" and so does just about everyone else.

Again, see the Demonheim and Is-Vena topics.

But having said all that I admit that Nomad are definitely the aggressors, however, we have not lashed out at anyone in else TTL since the actual war started, we have kept to VALI. Hell, even when Nightroado came and started helping you guys we left Caernarvon alone, because we knew he was acting on his own and not on the orders of his mayor.

I freely take the blame for this war, and we have acted badly during it(My rage fit a few days ago being a good example) but you guys have in no way acted well either, so don't pull any "good guy" shit.

Enfourvie wrote:

You brought this war on yourselves. Before then is was simple raiding, as it was directed at everyone in general, but then you attacked our friends. I see no problem in attacking someone who attacks your nation members, however, attacking Demonheim and Is-Vena because you can't affect us is petty and low.

Demonheim was annoying my friends. Nothing to do with you.

Enfourvie wrote:

I'll quote a conversation I had with winky.
Me -"So why'd you join TTL man?"
Winky -"To get them off my back, they were being dicks and attacking my town heaps"

Ok... so how did I force them to join me? It was their choice... and I never ever asked them to join me... it was only after one of their members payed mr_trollington 10K (again, I had no say in this) and mr_trollington started defending them that I took them into TTL.

Enfourvie wrote:

You may not have noticed but tutorial is with Nomad in all but name and is acting on his own, not the orders of the leader. Is-Vena is a peaceful town out in the middle of nowhere.

How was I supposed to know? Take tutorial into your town and those mistakes won't happen anymore.

Enfourvie wrote:

Again, see the Demonheim and Is-Vena topics.

See my responses.

Enfourvie wrote:

But having said all that I admit that Nomad are definitely the aggressors, however, we have not lashed out at anyone in else TTL since the actual war started, we have kept to VALI. Hell, even when Nightroado came and started helping you guys we left Caernarvon alone, because we knew he was acting on his own and not on the orders of his mayor.

I freely take the blame for this war, and we have acted badly during it(My rage fit a few days ago being a good example) but you guys have in no way acted well either, so don't pull any "good guy" shit.

I'm glad that you take the blame, and I am willing to have peace...

PS: Why is this in the towns/cities section?

Is this a peace treaty? Or just a mean for more war?

We have a love hate relationship... xD

So I'm reading this and I was thinking again.. We're going to have him back againn in 1.0.0

Lmao, he's all ready back. He made a new town and started a little trouble with the Empire.

Time to make him mean person some more. Be on tomorrow with new mic=)

So hard to type on the kindle fire

Ok, So i'm wondering why this hasn't been locked yet -.- Seems like we can handle this someplace else. Like in-game with our weapons. Can't wait til' I see Epic again. And remember the good ol' times of me, him, and my sword. Memories... Priceless.

now now, we need to let him build up a city of noobs, that way we have something to raid other than caern (no offense but as much as i like your town dion it gets dull attacking the same place all the time. )