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PostSubject: Ban request - Aljgohuti   Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:54 am

Kindly ban this little shit. Thanks to kirvin claiming my tower as part of ralstan without asking me, one of his douche residents decided to just destroy it for the lulz. I warned him to stop but he decided to carry on. He is currently dismantling it, and has more power than me, as he is a resident. Screenshots:







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PostSubject: Re: Ban request - Aljgohuti   Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:58 pm

Well, as far as I'm aware, it was intended that you were joining Ralstan, so Kirv protected the tower.
And then you left Ralstan...

What am I supoposed to say/do?
You left the city without asking him to unclaim it :/
There's not much I can do about that one, mate.
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PostSubject: Re: Ban request - Aljgohuti   Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:12 pm

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Well, as far as I'm aware, it was intended that you were joining Ralstan, so Kirv protected the tower.
And then you left Ralstan...

What am I supoposed to say/do?
You left the city without asking him to unclaim it :/
There's not much I can do about that one, mate.

Did you read my post :/ I'm not asking to get kirv banned

The issue is this guy griefing. Which i have clear proof of. He would have done it whether my tower was owned by ralstan or not.

A quote from your minescape intro on mc froums: "You MAY NOT grief, unless the damage is repairable within 10 seconds!
So you can break a hole in the wall...but not burn it down, or fill it with lava!
This is a no-questions-asked ban!"

This guy just wants to dick around, he griefed farrer's fort after this as far as i'm aware
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PostSubject: Re: Ban request - Aljgohuti   Thu Oct 13, 2011 4:08 pm

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CavGunner wrote:
Well, as far as I'm aware, it was intended that you were joining Ralstan, so Kirv protected the tower.
And then you left Ralstan...

What am I supoposed to say/do?
You left the city without asking him to unclaim it :/
There's not much I can do about that one, mate.

Did you read my post :/ I'm not asking to get kirv banned

The issue is this guy griefing. Which i have clear proof of. He would have done it whether my tower was owned by ralstan or not.

A quote from your minescape intro on mc froums: "You MAY NOT grief, unless the damage is repairable within 10 seconds!
So you can break a hole in the wall...but not burn it down, or fill it with lava!
This is a no-questions-asked ban!"

This guy just wants to dick around, he griefed farrer's fort after this as far as i'm aware

He was online for a long time last night, as well, so he's not "Just here to dick around", so we can remove that ^.^

Second, I have to disregard the part about Farrer's fort, as there's no proof about that.

Thirdly, I'm aware you don't want Kirv banned, and I DID read your post ^.^
The issue is that for Al to have griefed your tower...he would have have to been a part of Ralstan...which now owns that land.
I can't really ban him for damaging part of his own town...that's up to the Mayor to take care of.
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PostSubject: Re: Ban request - Aljgohuti   Thu Oct 13, 2011 4:24 pm

I'm gonna accept defeat here, as you do own the server and all.

I completely disagree with you tho. I thought the quote about griefing (your words) on the server would change your mind. Also, I really don't think he's fussed about destroying part of his own town. He entered the server, kirv asked him to join, he accepted.

The fact that some random dickhead who enjoys destroying (a donators) property can just get away with it is quite annoying. Justice has failed.

Don't want to fall out or anything so meh Rolling Eyes

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PostSubject: Re: Ban request - Aljgohuti   Thu Oct 13, 2011 5:03 pm

Captain Winkleberry wrote:
I'm gonna accept defeat here, as you do own the server and all.

I completely disagree with you tho. I thought the quote about griefing (your words) on the server would change your mind. Also, I really don't think he's fussed about destroying part of his own town. He entered the server, kirv asked him to join, he accepted.

The fact that some random dickhead who enjoys destroying (a donators) property can just get away with it is quite annoying. Justice has failed.

Don't want to fall out or anything so meh Rolling Eyes


Aye, but that's more RANDOM griefing.
He's part of the town, so he's really not griefing.

He joined in last night, when Kirv wasn't on, and played for a good few hours before he joined the town later on.
And if Kirv asked him to join, then that DEFINITELY throws it out, because now it's Kirv's responsibility, not the server's :/

So it's not really justice failing, it's bad town administration ^.^
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PostSubject: Re: Ban request - Aljgohuti   Thu Oct 13, 2011 5:44 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Ban request - Aljgohuti   Thu Oct 13, 2011 5:54 pm

Also remove the griefing= instant ban quote as you clearly don't inforce that


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PostSubject: Re: Ban request - Aljgohuti   Thu Oct 13, 2011 5:58 pm

It's not griefing if it's in his own town.
Then it's just citizen damage. In which case, Kirv needs to kick him from the town.

The griefing only counts if it's a random house in the wilderness.
Your house is protected by Ralstan...
If you're not in Ralstan, then there's nothing I can do about it, since you left willingly.
If you were BOTH in the town, and he was griefing, then yes. He would be banned.

But you're not, so there's nothing I can do.
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PostSubject: Re: Ban request - Aljgohuti   Thu Oct 13, 2011 6:12 pm

Mkay, I'm sure you'll get complaints about this guy in the future tho Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Ban request - Aljgohuti   Thu Oct 13, 2011 6:27 pm

Also he did grief my winkle-grotto (which isn't part of ralstan) But You'll obviously take a randomer's word rather than a trusted donator. idk why.
You won't ban him? naw obvs. The Winkle grotto, adjasent to my recently destroyed tower. I griefed it, obviously! I like destroying my own creations!
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PostSubject: Re: Ban request - Aljgohuti   Thu Oct 13, 2011 6:37 pm

Well, I could have banned him, if it wasn't repairable within 10 seconds...
But you don't have any proof for that one.
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PostSubject: Re: Ban request - Aljgohuti   Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:42 pm

Cav, but what about people who act nice so that you invite them into your town, and they backstab your kindness destroy any and everything they can when you are offline?
Would that be considered griefing and grounds for a ban?
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PostSubject: Re: Ban request - Aljgohuti   Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:19 pm

iDraghin wrote:
Cav, but what about people who act nice so that you invite them into your town, and they backstab your kindness destroy any and everything they can when you are offline?
Would that be considered griefing and grounds for a ban?

Yes, those would definitely be fair grounds.
But when Wink left the town (Thus technically forfeiting the land), he also forfeited the possibility of a ban.
Plus...I really don't see screenshots of a griefing.
I see screenshots of a player and a cameraman in a broken tower.
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PostSubject: Re: Ban request - Aljgohuti   Sat Oct 15, 2011 5:27 pm

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Plus...I really don't see screenshots of a griefing.
I see screenshots of a player and a cameraman in a broken tower.

what is required in the screenshot to have it count as sufficient evidence then?
also yes my fort was destroyed at the same time as winkles tower and no i have no proof other than logging in to find him rampaging through my farm.


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PostSubject: Re: Ban request - Aljgohuti   Sat Oct 15, 2011 5:46 pm

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Plus...I really don't see screenshots of a griefing.
I see screenshots of a player and a cameraman in a broken tower.

what is required in the screenshot to have it count as sufficient evidence then?
also yes my fort was destroyed at the same time as winkles tower and no i have no proof other than logging in to find him rampaging through my farm.

You're allowed to break crops, since they aren't part of the structure.
As for the screenshot, you don't necessarily need one for proof.
I would rather at least having a few random people agreeing that the person is griefing, and if you DO get a screenshot, even a rough screenshot of them doing something is fine.
But them just standing there doesn't prove much :/
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